Tithe the Poor

Nov. 9, 2021, Updated Oct. 9, 2023

I’m not sure exactly how long ago this happened, but I remember reading D&C 119 in an attempt to understand the Law of Tithing better. During that process, there was one word that stuck out to me and I continued to ponder upon it for some time. The word was “interest.” Now, I had always been told that tithing was on your “income”, not your interest. For all I knew these two words were synonymous, but just the fact that they were different led me on a journey of understanding and enlightenment, as well as great sorrow and heartache. Here is D&C 119 for context:

4 And after that, those who have thus been tithed shall pay one-tenth of all their interest annually; and this shall be a standing law unto them forever, for my holy priesthood, saith the Lord.

I was unaware that tithing, as outlined by the church, had changed many times since its inception. This was actually a bit shocking to me. In the modern church, it seemed so simple: 10%. How hard is that? The only thing most members would squabble over is whether you paid on “net” vs “gross” income. And my family had always been in a position to pay tithing without too much hardship.

If we study Joseph’s inspired translation of the bible we can learn a great deal more about what “interest” or “increase” means. In Genesis 14:39, we learn of Abram’s payment of tithes, which offers us a clearer definition of tithing: “Wherefore, Abram paid unto him tithes of all that he had, of all the riches which he possessed, which God had given him more than that which he had need." This is the more true definition of increase. Anything beyond what his needs were. Those needs are defined by the individual.

Where things really hit home for me was when I began to see parallel witnesses of Nephi and Moroni condemning future generations in the last days for the inappropriate use of money. But we’ll get into that further on. Let’s first take a look at the LDS church’s definition of tithing:

  • Church members give one-tenth of their income to the Lord through His Church.

  • Funds are used for the following: Build and maintain houses of worship, missionary work, schools, and anything that carries on the work of the Lord. Please note this disclaimer on the tithing slip: “Though reasonable efforts will be made to use donations as designated, all donations become the Church's property and will be used at the Church's sole discretion to further the Church's overall mission.”

It also helps to understand how church leaders also interpret the counsel in D&C 119. The following is found on LDS.org and comes from Elder John A. Widtsoe’s talk entitled “What is an honest tithing?”

 “Tithing means one-tenth. Those who give less do not really pay tithing; they are lesser contributors to the Latter-day cause of the Lord. Tithing means one-tenth of a person’s income, interest, or increase. The merchant should pay tithing upon the net income of his business, the farmer upon the net income of his farming operations; the wage earner or salaried man upon the wage or salary earned by him. Out of the remaining nine-tenths he pays his current expenses … etc. To deduct living costs … and similar expenses from the income and pay tithing upon the remainder does not conform to the Lord’s commandment. Under such a system most people would show nothing on which to pay tithing. There is really no place for quibbling on this point. Tithing should be given upon the basis of our full earned income. If the nature of a business requires special interpretation, the tithepayer should consult the father of his ward, the bishop.” (Evidences and Reconciliations, 2:86.)

So, it seems pretty clear that “income”, as defined by the church, is on your “full earned income.” But that has not always been the case. In 1837, Elder Partridge and his counselors agreed upon tithing as 2% of net worth. The following year John Corrill recorded that tithing was voluntary and not expected for poor families. A few years later the Quorum of the 12 modified it again to include one-tenth of all you possessed, and then one-tenth of your “increase” annually. This was when Joseph was still alive. Shortly after his death, more drastic changes began. (If you are interested in learning more about historical changes to tithing, check out this wonderful “Timeline of Tithing” from my friends at Hemlock Knots.)

Fast forward to the late 1800s when the church found itself in financial hardship. Around this time, Lorenzo Snow began referring to tithing in relation to “income.” From his 1899 Conference Report:

“I plead with you in the name of the Lord, and I pray that every man, woman and child who has means shall pay one tenth of their income as a tithing…” (Conference Report, October 1899, p.28.)

It is interesting to note a very important phrase here: "who has means.” This request to pay on income was not intended for the poor (i.e. those who were unable to meet their basic standard of living were not required to do so). As a young man, I always remembered the faith-promoting video of President Snow standing at the pulpit, seemingly being overcome with the Spirit, and prophesying that the Saints would be blessed for heeding this counsel.

Ironically, in the “Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Lorenzo Snow” lesson manual, that phrase from the conference report reads: “I plead with you in the name of the Lord, and I pray that every man, woman and child shall pay one tenth of their income as a tithing”. They intentionally omitted the words “who has means.” In traditional writing ellipses (three dots) are used to significantly shorten a much larger quote or to make the overall message more coherent. It’s quite interesting that ellipses were used in this instance to omit three very important words.

In 1928, it was noted that observing the principle of tithing should be “encouraged.” It was not spelled out as an absolute requirement at this time. Around 1940, significant changes to the temple recommend questions began. The tithing language was solidified to being “an honest tithepayer” or to “undertake to become one.”

Let’s jump back a few years to the 1915 General Conference where Joseph F. Smith stated, “I may be pardoned, perhaps, if I say here, for the benefit of any who do not know the facts, that the law of tithing is a voluntary law; that is, it imposes only a voluntary duty upon the people. No person’s standing as a member of the Church is jeopardized because he doesn’t pay his tithing. There are a good many of us who don’t observe all the laws, and it is a good thing that the Lord does not execute justice and judgment upon a great many of us because of it… for the Church has never made an investment that had not for its object the benefiting of the whole people. [break] I want to tell you that, we will be honest with you; we feel that it is the first duty of Latter-day Saints to take care of themselves, and of their poor; and then, if we can extend it to others…. but first look after the members of our own household. The man who will not provide for his own house, as one of old has said, is worse than an infidel.”

Did you catch that? Your first duty with the finances you’ve been blessed with is to care for yourself and any poor in your family. Why is this significant? The church today teaches the poor that even if they are unable to pay for food or other necessities, they are to pay tithing.

Here are quotes from General Conference and the Ensign magazine:

Elder Lynn Robbins, April 2005: "Is there a level of poverty so low that sacrifice should not be expected or a family so destitute that paying tithing should cease to be required? Like the widow, if a destitute family is faced with the decision of paying their tithing or eating, they should pay their tithing.”

 Elder Aaron West, Dec. 2012 Ensign: “If paying tithing means that you can’t pay for water or electricity, pay tithing. If paying tithing means that you can’t pay your rent, pay tithing. Even if paying tithing means that you don’t have enough money to feed your family, pay tithing.”

What in the hell are they teaching? Not only are these statements hypocritical when compared to previous church leaders, but they contradict the doctrinal precedence of caring for the poor. I am ashamed that these words were never retracted. The condemnation of the latter-day church by Moroni is well deserved, “O ye pollutions, ye hypocrites, ye teachers, who sell yourselves for that which will canker, why have ye polluted the holy church of God?”

Here’s another way to look at modern tithes. Take a family that makes $32,000 annually and their basic living expenses are $30,000. If they pay on their income that would be $3,200 in tithing. Essentially putting this family in debt to the tune of $1,200 that would need to be made up somewhere. Who does this family turn to? The church welfare system. If this family is unable to lower their overall expenses or increase their income, they will remain in a perpetual cycle of poverty to the church. Now, if they were to pay on their “increase”, as Joseph taught just before he was murdered, this family would pay $200 in tithes and have $1,800 to improve their quality of life, or to give freely to the poor. This would essentially replace dependency for independence.

As noted at the beginning of this essay, both Nephi and Moroni had a few words to say about the use of money by the latter-day churches. This is where a great divide, even a great awakening, happened for me. Let’s compare both scriptures:

2 Nephi 28:12-13 “ Because of pride, and because of false teachers, and false doctrine, their churches have become corrupted, and their churches are lifted up; because of pride they are puffed up. They rob the poor because of their fine sanctuaries; they rob the poor because of their fine clothing; and they persecute the meek and the poor in heart, because in their pride they are puffed up.”

Mormon 8:37 “For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.”

Ask yourself these questions: How would a church rob the poor because of their fine sanctuaries? Do you remember the first thing listed on the church website about where tithing funds go? Temples and houses of worship. And how are those buildings adorned? They spare no expense. And what must the poor of the church do in order to enter such a fine edifice? They must pay tithing, it is a requirement if you want to enter “The House of the Lord.” A person who is unable to pay rent or put food on the table, yet yearns for salvation, is kept in a perpetual cycle of poverty. Would you call that robbing the poor?

Not only does the church convince the poorest members of the church to pay tithing, but they also preach that paying tithing will bring them more money or prosperity, which was never the intended purpose. Both Russell Nelson and Dale Renlund taught this idea on a recent trip to Africa, where some of the poorest saints live. They insisted that paying money to the church would protect their countries and allow them to prosper. This concept flies in the face of one of the most overriding themes taught in the Book of Mormon. We hear these words over and over again, “And inasmuch as ye shall keep my commandments, ye shall prosper in the land.” This prosperity comes because of the righteous adherence to God’s will and commandments, even a broken heart and a contrite spirit, not a forced payment to enter the temple for salvation.

While traveling with her husband, Sister Wendy Nelson spoke to the young single adults in a church-wide broadcast. She told them, “When we're desperate to have more money, we eagerly follow the Lord's law of finances. Which is, of course, tithing.” She then related a story of how a young family was paying way more tithing than their income. The bishop asked why and the young father responded, "Oh, I'm not paying on what I make, I'm paying on what I want to make." She concluded the story by stating that the very next year this young man made exactly that amount of money. This is what we call the "Prosperity Gospel” and is a false doctrine because the focus shifts from caring for the poor to financial gain. 2 Nephi 26:31 teaches, “But the laborer in Zion shall labor for Zion; for if they labor for money they shall perish.”

Most members are unaware of this, but the Lord condemned the church for not living the principles taught in The Book of Mormon, and that condemnation was never lifted. Here the Lord is speaking to the church in D&C 84:

54 And your minds in times past have been darkened because of unbelief, and because you have treated lightly the things you have received

55 Which vanity and unbelief have brought the whole church under condemnation.

56 And this condemnation resteth upon the children of Zion, even all.

57 And they shall remain under this condemnation until they repent and remember the new covenant, even the Book of Mormon and the former commandments which I have given them, not only to say, but to do according to that which I have written

One very essential aspect to inject here is the importance of sacrifice by all people, rich or poor. I feel any effort that we freely give for the benefit and blessing of others is rewarded in the eternities. The positive vibrations (Spirit if you will) that are put out will eventually come back and you will be blessed. In some volumes of scripture, this is referred to as The Universal Law of Restoration. Any action on our part, for good or for bad, will return in greater measure. That’s a wonderful topic for another day.

So where does the church stand as far as its finances today? It is estimated that the church is one of the largest landowners in the United States and one of the wealthiest churches in the world. They also have between $100–130 billion dollars in surplus. And yet they’ve convinced many members of the church who can’t even provide for their families, that they should pay because of the “blessings” they will receive. The church uses the true doctrine of sacrifice to convince poor members to continue to pay, and they require it to receive salvation. To be fair, over the past 35 years, the church has paid out an estimated $2.3 billion in humanitarian aid and welfare projects. That is 1.8% when compared to the current church surplus.

Scriptural Precedence in Caring for the Poor

I think it’s important to not only expose the false traditions of our fathers but also to present a more accurate picture of doctrinal precedent. Let’s begin with the words from Christ Himself.

Matthew 25 In the 25th chapter of Mathew we are taught about the separation that will happen at His Second Coming. The sheep and the goats are separated to his left and right based on how well they cared for the hungry, the thirsty, the stranger, the naked, the sick, and even the poorest among them. “And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”

Malachi 2-3 One of the most quoted scriptures on tithing is found in the last book of the Old Testament. From a church perspective, it is often used as a method of leverage with the saints. We are encouraged to not “rob God” because we do want the windows of heaven opened unto us. But one aspect we are never taught within the church is who is actually robbing God. The Lord begins chapter 2 by rebuking the priests for not keeping their covenants and not teaching the people. He continues that rebuke in chapter 3. Upon careful study, we realize that it was the priests themselves who were robbing the storehouse reserved for the poor. Ironic, isn’t it? And to be fair, the rebuke of the Lord is also upon any nation or people who choose to neglect the poor.

Mosiah 4:24-26 Chapters 2-5 are a fascinating sermon by King Benjamin. (verse 24) “I say unto the poor, ye who have not and yet have sufficient, that remain from day to day; I mean all you who deny the beggar, because ye have not; I would that ye say in your heart that: I give not because I have not, but if I had I would give.” This counsel is what early church leaders taught. The people referred to in this verse don’t have excess (increase), yet do have sufficient to meet their basic needs. They are not required to give, but they are free to care for others in any other way they choose. (e.g. service or personal sacrifice) The church today teaches the poor they must pay tithing even though they do not have sufficient for their needs. We continue in verse 26 where King Benjamin teaches that caring for the poor is essential to receiving a remission of one’s sins. “And now, … for the sake of retaining a remission of your sins from day to day, I would that ye should impart of your substance to the poor, every man according to that which he hath, such as feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and administering to their relief, both spiritually and temporally, according to their wants.” Think back to D&C 84 and the Lord’s condemnation of the church for not heeding the teachings of the Book of Mormon. The church is harming the poor, not caring for them.

Mosiah 18:27-28 In this chapter we are taught the perfect system of caring for one another. After Alma had fled from the courts of King Noah, he gathered righteous people to the Waters of Mormon. Here they made baptismal covenants to serve God. Toward the end of chapter 18, he sets for the manner of caring for one another. “And again Alma commanded that the people of the church should impart of their substance, every one according to that which he had; if he have more abundantly he should impart more abundantly; and of him that had but little, but little should be required; and to him that had not should be given. And thus they should impart of their substance of their own free will and good desires towards God, and to those priests that stood in need, yea, and to every needy, naked soul.” This is a wonderful description of a consecrated society, giving of their “own free will” and not as a requirement for salvation.  

Alma 31-32 These chapters are particularly interesting given that they are taught within the main canon of LDS scripture. Alma went to reclaim the Zoramites and found that they had built up fine sanctuaries upon the sweat and effort of the poor. Even creating a high place in the center (the Rameumptom) upon which they spewed vain repetitions. Alma is cast out by the rich but finds success among the poor people of the city. These people had been rejected by the High Priests and were prevented from entering the temple because of their exceeding poverty, they felt they had no place to worship. Alma then teaches them how they are to worship. “Behold I say unto you, do ye suppose that ye cannot worship God save it be in your synagogues only? And moreover, I would ask, do ye suppose that ye must not worship God only once in a week?” He continues his sermon expounding upon the virtues of humility, mercy, and enduring to the end. Oh, what irony! The parallels to the LDS church and rejecting temple admittance to the poor couldn’t be more apparent.

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Caring for the poor and helping those in need is “pure religion.” It is the foundation upon which we turn our hearts to one another, and in turn, our hearts are drawn out to God. As we care for the poor, we are loving Him in a perfect way. By following the path of the Master Healer, even Jesus Christ, we will find that our capacity to love and care for others will be increased. I would encourage each of you to ask God who you can help lift and bless through your own personal sacrifice and offerings, and I witness that He will guide you to those in need.

Shalom

Update / Oct. 2023: I know this happened earlier this year and I should probably do an entire write-up on this, but the SEC fined the LDS church for illegally hiding $32 Billion from the government. They paid a $5 Million fine, and the kicker… the reason they gave for hiding the money is that they were afraid the members would stop paying tithing if they knew how filthy rich the church was. Read the SEC filing, it’s in there. These decisions were approved by the first presidency and spanned nearly 20 years, or at minimum the past three presidents of the church. They even had some of the Managers of these shell companies leave because they knew it was unethical. And how did the church respond? “We affirm our commitment to comply with the law, regret mistakes made, and now consider this matter closed.” At a minimum, the LDS leaders do not trust the members of the church. At worst, they are “they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.” (Isaiah 56:11)

You can read the SEC report here: https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/admin/2023/34-96951.pdf


Update Feb. 2025: I've become quite familiar with Mormon 8 over the years. There's one part in Moroni's prophecy about the use of money that I always attributed to the Catholics and their implementation of indulgences (paying money to be forgiven of your sins)... BUT, the Gospel Principles manual just made me realize that the LDS church fits this prophecy perfectly, just as the Catholics do.

Here's the language from the LDS Gospel Principles manual, ch.19 on "Repentance":
"We are not fully repentant if we do not pay tithes.."

And here's Moroni's prophecy:
"32 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that shall say: Come unto me, and for your money you shall be forgiven of your sins."

I'm shocked, actually. Moroni is condemning the LDS church. Money should never be used as leverage for forgiveness. 🤯🤯🤯


Disclaimer: Only a small portion of my thoughts and feelings are contained within this essay. It is nearly impossible to condense a lifetime of study, thoughts, and impressions, into a few paragraphs. I value and encourage the need for altering perspective as new light and knowledge is acquired. One of the best ways to know a person’s heart is to sit down and talk face-to-face, perhaps while consuming a mild barley drink.


Here is some additional reading material not included in the original essay:

This next video is well done, but the audio is extremely slow. I’d suggest listening to it at twice the speed. It clearly shows how early church leaders understood “interest” to mean surplus.

I couldn’t help but include this next video. This makes it apparently clear how closely the LDS church teaches the prosperity gospel. The difficulty here is that churches are banking on an eternal principle, which is the law of sacrifice. Any time we strive to sacrifice for others, we receive more in return. We receive a blessing. What people don't realize is that helping those who are truly in need is what God intended. I doubt he wanted us to stuff the pockets and large financial investments of a corporate church.

If you’d like to explore this topic further please see the linked resources below.

Disclaimer #2: I may agree with all, some, or maybe just a few words of the content listed below. I may also strongly disagree with elements that are shared. Take the Spirit as your guide as you study all things.

Hemlock Knots: Tithing–Timeline of Events

Pay Your tithes

Pure Mormonism: Are we paying too much tithing?

Face2Face Renlund: National Prosperity Gospel of Tithing?

April 2005 General Conference: Tithing, even a commandment for the destitute

Mormon Think: Tithing

Modern Mormon Men: Financial Transparency and the LDS Church

Tithing: Gospel of Mormon Prosperity

Elder Johnson: Essential obligations of paying tithing (Part 1) (Part 2)

Elder Nelson - Help Argentinas economic disaster by Teaching Tithing

Elder Faust: Get out of poverty by paying tithing

Elder Oaks: Pay tithing, or else

Elder Oaks: Giving to Charity is not Tithing. Tithing is not Charity.

Elder Andersen: Trust Brethren Over Your Own Judgement

Why I stopped paying tithing to the LDS church

Reddit: Notes on the changing enforcement of tithing from 1884 to 1970

Seven Problems with LDS Tithing

The insane world of mega rich pastors (btw, the LDS church parrots these exact same teachings)

Elder Bednar on tithing / 3:45 min mark (Stating that the church doesn’t need your money, but you need the blessings, is a false doctrine.)